RE: No Minneapolis Meeting

From: James M. Polk ^lt;jmpolk@cisco.com>
Date: Wed Mar 06 2002 - 12:51:31 EST

At 08:45 AM 3/6/2002 -0700, Zmolek, Andrew (Andrew) wrote:

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>But geopriv is not chartered to design a general purpose presence and
>availability system. Rather, it attempts to force policy application all
>the way down to the location protocol itself. Can you imagine what the
>internet would be like if the same rationale were applied to echo
>request and reply protocols, traceroute protocols, and other similar
>tools?

Don't get me started on comparisons.... grrrrrrrrr!!

>
>Anyway, enough ranting. I'm 100% in support of a BoF. Given that iptel
>was meeting at the same time as geopriv, may I suggest we try to
>organize a meeting during the next group of sessions, Tuesday afternoon
>1545-1645. What do you think?

I have the same conflict with iptel, so the next slot is great with me.

>
>--Andy Zmolek
> Technology & Standards Engineer
> CTO Standards
> Avaya Inc.
>
> zmolek@avaya.com
> +1 720 444 4001
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Cuellar Jorge [mailto:Jorge.R.Cuellar@mchp.siemens.de]
>Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 8:20 AM
>To: Rosen, Brian; 'Randall Gellens'; 'James M. Polk'; 'Kenji Takahashi';
>'John Morris'
>Cc: geopriv@mail.apps.ietf.org
>Subject: RE: No Minneapolis Meeting
>
>
>IMHO we have had quite a bit of discussion on terminology,
>scenarios and requirements. We tried to reflect those
>discussions in the drafts that Mehmet, Kenji and I have
>prepared. They will be announced shortly, but for your convenience,
>and to have more discussion before Minneapolis we have them made
>available at:
>
>http://www.epic.roke.co.uk/epic/draft-cuellar-geopriv-reqs-01.txt
>and
>http://www.epic.roke.co.uk/epic/draft-cuellar-geopriv-scenarios-00.txt
>
>Those are a new version of the requirements draft,
>and a new scenarios draft. We are in close discussion with
>John Morris to merge our viewpoints, and we hope to
>prepare a common draft before or during the IETF-53.
>
>As much as we could, we have left the scope of the
>drafts to what we think is a bear minimum, but if there are
>any concrete suggestions we can restrict the scope even more.
>
>IMHO much of the discussion is difficult because there is no clear
>consensus on what is on the scope of the WG. Is authentication of
>policies in the scope? Are policies opaque? Is authentication of
>requestors and responders in our scope? Is location data opaque?
>Is a convenient abstraction of location data and transformations
>in the scope? Is identity management (say, pseudonyms) in the scope?
>Or is authentication based on public identities? There are many drafts
>around and they already express different standpoints of a discussion.
>
>I think that a WG meeting is actually necessary, and
>I would expect a WG session to increase the discussion
>(as actually it was also the case at SLC).
>
>I would like to meet in Minneapolis with anyone interested in
>making progress in this discussion or collaborating on drafts.
>
>Best regards,
>
>Jorge
>

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